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What if I told you that much of the forensic science you see on shows like CSI isn't based on actual science and the wrongly convicted pay a horrific price? Two distances in a life without parole. My youngest I was incarcerated two days after her first birthday. Listen to CSI on trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. tail of ambition, treason, and what happens when evil tycoons have too much time on their hands. Listen to Let's Start a Coon on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you find your favorite shows. MySpace was the first major social media company. They made the internet feel like a nightclub. And it was the first major social media company to collapse. My name is Joanne McNeil. On my new podcast, Main Accounts, The Story of MySpace. I'm revisiting the early days of social media through the people who lived it. Listen to Main Accounts, The Story of MySpace, on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. I'm Dr. Romani and I am back with season two of my podcast Navigating Narcissism. This season we dive deeper into highlighting red flags and spotting a narcissist before they spot you. Each week you'll hear stories from survivors who have navigated through toxic relationships, gaslighting, love bombing, and their process of healing. Listen to Navigating Narcissism on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In the mid 2000s, I was part of an underground party scene of mostly Latin X-teens all across L.A. Now I'm looking back at that time. And an unself murder that got blamed on the scene. I'm Janice Hemoka. Host of a new podcast about what happens when your safe space isn't always safe. All episodes of Party Cruise, The Untold Story, that's C-R-E-W-S, are available now on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm gonna forget. John Beness has you won the eGOT? He has me. Of course. Yeah. I don't know. I won the eGOT like a few years ago. Yeah I've been back. We're not going to be with Coleman, maybe on Zoom. I think we're going to be on Zoom. We're going to be on Zoom. Shout out to Manay Tukido Zoom. Oh, what up? I hate the black ones. They got a lot of filters on Zoom. You can play with it. I'm not letting you up a little bit. I'm the family, congratulations. Everybody's good. Everybody's good. We got you know, three kids now. It's good. Do you hate seeing every time I watch Million Dollar Listing LA? They always reference you in your house and your old house some way. I don't like that they keep saying our names and Rihanna lived at that same house too. I don't like that they keep saying our names like we are selling the house. We're not selling it. We already sold it. And then they're trying to sell it again. But we ain't got nothing to do with it now. Every show is like, yeah, that's the house that John led you used to us. I ran a Christian house. I'm like, this is weird. That house been going. Yeah, we don't live there anymore and we're not trying to sell it. Somebody else is, but they're using our name plenty. How you look so refreshed with a newborn in the house, man? Well, are you segueing to my loved one skin care? I'm gonna have to use some of that if you get you looking after him. He's a shy little man. Hey, nothing you can do with this. I don't have time. I'm sorry. He's gonna be rough this time. I love you. We do have a new skin care line. We do have a new skin care line and it's formulated for Mellon and Rich's skin and the focus is really on moisture. So, if I'm looking moisturized. And it's called loved one? Loved one. Loved one. Yeah. Loved one. What made you want to go down that lane? Well, I've been working in skin care doing deals with other brands and I was like, why not start my own? And I didn't want to start it unless we had a real reason for it to exist. And when we started doing the research on the business, we realized that there's a lot of black and brown folks that want skin care that's actually formulated for us. That's right. And that takes into consideration the unique differences that our skin has. And there weren't very many companies that was actually doing that. And so, we said, why not create it? And not only did we want to create it and formulate it for us, but we wanted to make sure everybody could afford it too. So, we're selling everything for $15 or less right now. We're selling it at CVS and Walmart places where people shop. Right. And so, we're like, why make this a celebrity skin care brand? The only celebrities and their friends can afford. Make it so that everybody can afford it. And formulate it for a population that's been underserved and hasn't been catered to in this business. What can be the fat put on our hands right now? Because we got some good moisturizers. In low-ass, if you're asking, we got moisturizers, we got oil. Oh, I'm f**king right. You take your wrap, you know. Miss Pat put the wrong one on her hand. Miss Pat put the ex-pholiation on her hand. Oh, no, no. Just did it for her. Oh, look, rubbing on that. Yeah, let's just rub it on your black mouth. They'll never look good. John Legend says the moisturizers really good and the oil's really good. Oh, this is nice. It's creamy. Rich. It's very creamy. Rich and creamy. Come on and put some on your lips. The fact is, we got jokes, but the fact is, black and brown people actually lose moisture more quickly than light or skin. And so when we talk about being actually, that's a real thing. I will. And we're more likely to be actually because we lose moisture more quickly. And so a lot of our products are focused on moisture and hydration. You get a facial yesterday and she was telling me that you have to put a serum in your face, because your face, I never heard this term, but she said your face drinks. And the serum actually is what hydrates your face. And you find in different ways to protect your skin barrier and moisturize hydrate. It's good. Is product the only way for artists to create generational wealth? I think it's a combination. I make a lot of money playing live and make a lot of money on my music. But I think having product allows you to make money without having to be out doing a show all the time. Absolutely. So it gives you the ability to create wealth that can build and can be generational because these products can outlive you. They can be in stores forever. And we're trying to build a brand that people really trust and will make a part of the daily routine that they're going to be buying for decades to come after I'm gone. Are you tired of entertainment? No, I love it. Okay. I love making music. I'm always writing, always recording. I just put out mountains up timber for another solo version of the out mountain February. And I'm going to keep making music, keep playing shows. And that's always going to be my first love. And I think it'll be my main job for the rest of my life. But I guess a better question. Are you tired of being the main product? Like are you tired of having to get up and go do the physical work in order to make? I feel like I can diversify. Honestly, I think that's what I'm doing is making it so it's not all writing on me being present every moment. And I'm always going to make music, always going to do shows. But this allows me to diversify. Now, you know, with artists selling their catalogs, you sold your catalog. I sold a piece of my publishing, yeah. What made you think to do that? Because I see so many people selling their catalogs there. Because a lot of times people say, you know what, I'm going to keep my catalog so I can continue to eat and my kids continue to eat. But you. But it's diversification too because what you're doing is saying, you're letting this other company invest in this piece of your business. And then you're saying, I'm going to take that cash they give me and invest in other things. And so for me, it makes it so you're not completely relying on the ups and downs of the music industry, but you're saying, I'm going to take some of this money and invest it in other things. And that's what I did. Because you bring that down a little bit more because you know, when black people tend to do things like that, people be like, ah, you selling your catalog, you got to have ownership like, but white artists do it. I'm watching all the white artists selling plenty of people doing it. And honestly, I did it at a time when I felt like they were offering a high premium when it comes to the multiple. So basically the multiple is they see what you're making per year and they offer you something X times that per year amount for your catalog. And I felt like the multiple they were offering me was very generous. And I was going to take that cash and invest it in different things. So what's an all-reline on my music career to make the money? What are they doing with the music? What's the upside for them? Basically they're doing the same thing we were doing before there, getting it placed in movies, the regular revenue of it, streaming all the other money you bring in from your catalog. They're just taking that money in. So they're taking a bet that maybe they can find ways to grow it beyond what it was normally getting. And that's a bet that they took. And I figured let them take that bet on my music and then I'm going to take this cash to get me in bet on other things. I have one question. Is this the shower chair? Is it a unit set? Everything's unit set. Oh, good. So it's face-to-body wash, face-to-body moisturizer, shave cream, everything's unit set, and it's a formula for melanin rich skin. Is it on your side? Huh? Is it on your side? I'm going to use it on me. The place just hit it. You don't love it. You don't love it. I'm sick of him, Jack. No, you said you had washed your son or you had to fight him. I'm going to use it. I just want to make sure I ain't putting that smell like no man down ever. Only two of the products are even have a light scent, but both of the scent are very natural. And it's definitely unit set. You're not going to smell man-ish. You got some shaving cream here. I ain't going to long. Everybody needs a shave too. I've been growing them whiskers down now, so I'm going to use some of that too. Hey, with all the 50, this is for us too. I get chest hair sometime. And the thing about shaving, and all the other things we do are our skin. They can strip the skin. They can make it feel dry. And everything we do is focused on moisture and hydration. So the shaving cream is going to be nice too. You're going to like it. Oh, love have mercy. You're going to have to look back. Now you're shaving style, Miss Pat. Miss Pat, don't fight him. No, don't fight him. You're going to say you get the whiskers. You know what, no, Miss Pat, don't fight him. You ever look back and think about some of the moves you made. And when people challenge those moves back then, and then it all unfolds, and they'd be like, you see the vision, like I'm just thinking of Kanye West, right? Yeah. And when you first decide that, you know, this is not where I want to go. This is not the route. And people are like, you're crazy. He's this. He's a genius. And you should stay there and you decided to take your own lane. And then you see how it unfolds. Well, those same people kind of follow what you did. Well, all of these decisions though, there were people in my camp that didn't want me to sign with Kanye when I signed with him because I signed with good music. And I signed through good music to Columbia Records. So all of my first few albums were through good music to Columbia Records. And you give up certain things when you signed to an artist production company. But I felt like it was the right move for me because creatively we were in a great place together. And his star was ascending as a producer and as an artist. And I felt like being part of that team was going to propel my career to a place that it needed to be. And it did. And it was really important for me to be with good music for my first few albums. And my career wouldn't be what it is without that. And then when it's time to move on, it's time to move on. But we had a really successful run together. And you make these decisions. And you know, hindsight is 2020 and everything looks good now. It's like everything worked out. It's all good. But at the time, it's complicated and it's difficult making these decisions and you're not sure if it's going to work out. And you like to think that you can foresee the future and you can plan ahead. But you never know how it's going to work out, but it worked out. There's so many things you give up when you signed to an artist company. Well you give up a piece of your revenue. But the bottom line is with any of these deals, you're like, would I rather have 100% of a smaller amount or 50 or 60% of a larger amount. And so you've got to do the math and say, is it worth me signing with somebody giving up a portion of my revenue? Are we going to grow the pie together and make something bigger that we all can share together? Did they have it? You concerned about you being R and B and him being hip hop? No, I think it actually made it. So I had my own lane within good music. It made it so that I wasn't really competing with the other rappers that he had signed. I was in my own lane. Why did you leave the boys? I didn't really leave the boys. I just am not doing this season, but I'll be back. Oh, okay, okay. So you take a break because we're having a kid. There's a lot going on. He was tired of hitting that bell. Tad! I turned it around for this second. I was like, you turned it in. You turned it in. You turned it in. I turned it in. I mean, it would be kind of deceitful to say I'm really taking a full paternity leave because I'm doing plenty of work during this time. But I'm doing a little less work. And it was a perfect time to take a break. And you know, it was Blake's last season. Let him have his moment. I know Blake. Blake is my guy. Blake is my guy. He tweeted me one day, I almost fainted. I was like, you know me. When people were buying checks, that wasn't him. That wasn't him, it was Pat. What do you think about the current state of R and B? Yeah, I know. One time, did he say R and B is dead in this conversation? No. He's been going on and on for the last couple of months. What's your vision of R and B? What's your vision? It's not dead. I feel like there's a lot of great artists making great music. I was just on Spotify, listening to music in the car today. And a lot of it was R and B. And a lot of it was current. And a lot of it was dope. And I feel like there's so many really good artists making R and B. And no, it's definitely not dead. Who was you? Who does John Legend listen to? I was listening to CZ. That's it today. I was listening to Summer Walker. I was listening to Daniel Caesar. I was listening to her. I was listening to Frank Ocean. I was listening to, I mean, we could have some new Frank. That would be great. Leon Bridges. Are these not dead? Did you hear John Legend? I mean, occasionally I listen to myself. Okay. But most of the time I'm focused, like, when I'm making the album, I listen to it all the time. And I'm like tweaking and getting it exactly right. And then once it's out, then, you know, I'll let it be out. But my kids actually love it. And so they'll ask me to play it in the car a lot. So I end up listening to myself in the car with my kids when I take them to school. Dang, I can't do that with my keys. I curse. In my comedy. I got like occasional curse word in my songs. And so we just try to ignore that. And my daughter will laugh. She said, dad, you said a bad word. But you know, keep moving. Do you intentionally put out an album every two years? Because I do not exactly intentionally, but I'm like, I'm intentionally creative. So I like to schedule time in the studio. I like to, when I'm off tour, like, actually actively make time to make new music. And by the time, you know, I do that for like six and nine months, it's time to put another album out because I got enough material for it. Is there any song that you created that you just can't stand anymore? But like, I hate performing it. I hate doing it. No, no. You love my music. No, I mean, I have enough songs that I don't have to play any song I don't like really. And there's none of my popular songs that my fans want to hear that I don't like to play. Okay. What was it like to own with Shade? Incredible. I loved it. Honestly, it was like a master class every night. She's just an incredible performer. Her mystique, just everything about her. So she seems so mythical, like, I think she's not even a real person. Like, you see her? And she just disappears. Like, the last tour was the one we did together. And that was 2011. Wow. It's 2023. She has a, she's chilling. She's chilling. Even then did you interact with her? We did. And she was super cool. Like, you would, honestly, you'd be intimidated by her mystique. But in person, she was very chill. And she had her family along on the tour. And all of her people were really kind to my people, which isn't always a case when you go on tour with somebody else who's the headliner. And they were all super kind and interacted with my musicians and my band. And we just had a great time on tour with them. But if the headliner didn't want you, they could just say that, right? So, man, I've been part of, went early in my career. I've been part of tours where the headliner would do things like, you know, little slide things, like make sure your decibel level was lower. Wow. And, wow. Control your stage position. You can't have a band. You're going to have a little bit of it because they got to give them all, yeah? Yeah. And then once I started having an opening artist, like, I remembered that. And I would never would do that to them. Yeah, I never would do that to them. I was always, I would always give them what I felt like was the proper shine. And I never was scared that they was going to upstage me. I was just like, let's give these people a great show. And that includes the opening act having a great show, too. Was it difficult opening up for somebody? Because you can do these tours on your own. But now you actually have to open up for somebody. Was that difficult? It was actually kind of easy because during two hour shows there's a lot. And doing a 45 minute show is very comfortable. So those artists that are fronting on you like that back in the day, and the attitude that you got when it, you hold that against them? I'm like, I don't know. Honestly, I'm good. I'm happy. My career is great. I've done very well and had wonderful tours. Like, I'm not going to worry about small things that happen at the beginning of my career. I got a question. You ever get on stage and be singing? And then for you, get your lyrics. Oh, yeah. Oh, because that happened to me too as a career. Oh, yeah. I remember that joke. Yeah. I'm tired of you comparing yourself to John Legend. I'm not. No, no. You have to take a time to make sure. I'm not going to make sure. I'm not going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. I'm going to make sure. Sometimes I'll actually laugh about it. Because I honestly think fans like having those human moments in the show. That's all I'm saying. It makes them human. And sometimes I'll be like, I fucked that up. Excuse me. And you know, I curse. You just fight. This is pre-tanked. And I'll just be like, I messed that up and started over. And the fans love it. Because they get a real moment. Because they don't want you to be perfect. And they don't want you to be lip syncing and all that. They want you to be a human. That's why they come to the show. Like if they want to listen to a record, they can listen to a record. How'd you come up with the name Loved One? Loved One. My team came up with it. Obviously I put Loved into a lot of what I do. My wine is called LVE. Bought you my music. It was of course, Loved Music. And I felt like when you think about that skincare ritual, it's about self-love. But it's also something you share with the people you love. And so we felt like that name would be dope. And we made it kind of different with the kind of raised O and the one. And some people say Loved O One. And we got to correct them. But once they learn what it is, Loved One. It just rose off the time. How long does it take for you to get all that together? Do you have to go with these different products? Yeah, we started almost a year and a half ago. And so we started with the idea that this needed to exist, that there was a gap in the market that Melonade's skin wasn't being paid attention to. And if you look at the actual policy that goes into it, the FDA doesn't even require you to test on any shades later than, I mean darker than white, basically. No. Yeah, they don't actually require you to test on it. So if you're testing efficacy, you don't have to test it on brown and black skin. Wow. And then when it comes to dermatology, the dermatologist don't even have to learn about the conditions that brown and black skin are more likely to face. And you look in their textbooks. They're not even seen pictures of our skin. Absolutely. And so there's a big gap in skin care when it comes to thinking about the different needs that Melonade's skin has. And so we figured there's a real opportunity here to create something special that our people can use confidently knowing that we put a lot of care and research into developing it for us and then making it affordable for everybody. That makes all the sense in the world. Because you know, we always say that black people love the skin you're in, but how about take care of the tooth? Take care of it. And we want to give people the opportunity to take care of the skin in a beautiful way. That's effective, but also affordable. And that's why we wanted it available everywhere, available in CVS, Walmart. It's warm for me. $10, $15 for everything. That's affordable. Not an Oscar's dinner party. Yes. You know what it was going to be boring? That's why you all bought the Uno cards? We were like, it was like our insurance in case it was boring. But it was not boring. Must've been because y'all pulled them out. We had a good table. We didn't actually end up playing. We just had them. We just had them with it. Just in case. Yeah. We had a good table, a Gabby Union, Dway, Queen Latif, kind of going to get a game. Should've put some space in it. Karen said, I know we could have some space going to. But yeah, we had a good table. We had a good time. Oh, so the conversation was, OK, I'll give you some. The conversation was good, so no need to. We didn't actually end up playing. They've had to play it after we left, because we left right after dessert, because we both had to fly east on a red eye. But I don't know if they played after we left. Maybe they needed it after we left, you know, because y'all are energy. But you see the list that they put out, Rolling Stone, the greatest singer's list. Did you see that list? What did you think about them? He's laughing. He's laughable. I don't understand their criteria. It was like, it was a lot of people left off, leave aside the fact that I was left off. But you were left off. There was a lot of other people left off. I'm like, it really makes sense. But I feel like they just are somewhat called the trolling stone. And I feel like they just wanted to spark conversation. And be a little bit controversial. And they were controversial. Did you hear the Franklin's comments on some of the singers on there? We've been Franklin's dead. I was about to read the Franklin. I was about to say something. I was like, what is she saying? She's saying something. Oh my god. If you're a real crimeist, you're a face, you're a face. I was like, what is she saying? You gotta say, guys. You're a face, man. That was you. Cheers to Queen. She came back to told her that she's done. Yeah. We were running the Reese Franklin saying something. Who was you thinking about? You were thinking about it. What was it? I was going to be glad that they were going out. No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. Shocking. Shocking. I didn't say anything. Why didn't Shocking ease it? Who was it? It was, uh, Shocking Con was on blast. He was on something else. Shocking Con was on blast. Yeah, Shocking Con was on something else. Shocking Con was on something else. Shocking Con was on something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who he scared us? Well, the thing is, what is your criteria? Is it actual, pure vocal ability? Because there are definitely people on that list. They're not, I wouldn't call them great singers, but they're a very like successful artist. And so are you basing it on their vocal ability? Are you basing it on just their pure success as a lead artist? And then, you know, there's, there's different ways to make that list. And it just seemed like it was all over the place. I hate when they bring success into it. Yeah. Success, money, accolades. Like, let's just talk about raw talent. Like, even when it comes to the rap, when it comes to the singing, but it's like, but you know, there's a, there's an argument for that too. Like, if you're talking about football, you talk about Tom Brady as the go. You're not saying he's the most purely talented quarterback. You're saying he won the most championships. He had the most success at what he was doing in football. And so there's an argument to make a, you know, most successful list. But if you're going to call it the greatest singers, I feel like singing, they should be good singers. I agree. It was according to who wrote the list and who ear was hearing it. Yeah. I don't think anybody but singers can make those lists. And I don't think anybody but rappers should be able to make the rap list. Did you see the billboard or hip hop list? What do you think of that? I mean, it wasn't terrible. I thought it was more, it was less controversial than the singing list. I thought it was too early for some people. Like, I think it's too early to put Kendrick Lamar in with two. I love, I am a guy. I love Kendrick Lamar, but it's too early to put him in. How many albums is he in now? It's like four. Yeah, but he's a decade. Yeah. Hip hop is, I think for me, it got to be at least 15 to 20 years. Me personally. I just think he's never missed yet. Yeah, he has a miss yet. Yeah, he has a miss. Kendrick has never missed and his skill is impeccable. Like, his skill as an MC is impeccable and he's never missed with an album or a tour of it, not even a video really. He's like, so many people you got to jump over to be number two. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. Who is your top? I think Jay is number one. I agree. And after that, I think it's difficult because I think it mixes a lot of different factors. But I think Kendrick should be in the conversation because he literally is that great and he's and you just compare his raw MC ability against any rapper of any era and he's right there. He's in my top five. Now, let me ask question. A rapper that doesn't write his own is he in that list. So who are we saying is not writing now? Because it was time it was Kanye. It was time it was Drake. It was time it was a couple people. But that's all rumors that I mean, I never saw Kanye being ghost written and I've been in the studio with him a lot. He writes. I'm not saying he's written every single thing, but I never saw him being ghost written. I seen guys in the room like bounce and ideas around, but Kanye is a writer. Who is your top five? I've never been in the studio with Drake. So I have no, I can't test the fight. So while you say Kendrick should be in that J. I'm going to say Nas. Nas. I'm going to say Biggie. Anybody from the South? Honestly, I would put Andre in my top five. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We appreciate you for joining us. Can we have a package to send to somebody right now? Can we do that? We're going to want to find right now. We can give somebody a. Oh, yeah. We can give somebody. Send them some love. We can get this everywhere. CBS, there's 2000 CVS stores that have it. Walmart.com has it. And we're rolling out at 500 Walmart stores. So it won't be every Walmart store, but it'll be quite a few. Out of B. Not yet. We wanted to be like, we wanted to be in mass retail. We wanted to sell it at prices that everybody could afford. And so that was an intentional strategy because we feel like there's plenty of celebrities doing things that are more exclusive, more expensive. And we decided we wanted to do it affordable and accessible. And the regular people like myself appreciate this. I have a CVS purse. You need to push it. I have no longer shop lift as CVS, but I will be there by your. There you go. Call the 105 right now if you want this package. 800-585-1051. You get the shaving cream. You get the face and body moisturizer. You get the toning mist. You get a cleanser exfoliating cleanser and you get a face and body wash. The oil. I don't get the oil. The oil. That's one of my favorites. Face and body oil. Okay. What's the oil for? It's more moisturizing. I usually use the moisturizer than the oil. And it's got a really nice light scent. It ain't loud. It ain't heavy. It lost the oil ain't heavy. It's really good. Okay. We're rolling out at 500 Shores and John Legend. We appreciate your time. Satisfied customer. Satisfied customer. I'm here for black products. That's all I do. I was just there for makeup, don't I? Take me with a black peep ant. And I just buy. I buy. Because you got to support our own. Because for years, people that look like of his maids still for us that wasn't for us. So when I see somebody black do so, everybody's self-shallowing, man. I'm going to support everybody's self-shallowing, man. John Legend, you can break this club. We did it. We're going to break this club. What if I told you that much of the forensic science you see on shows like CSI isn't based on actual science and the wrongly convicted pay a horrific price? Two disadvantages in a life without parole. My youngest, I was incarcerated two days after her first birthday. Listen to CSI on trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if a secret cabal of the most powerful folks in the United States told you, hey, let's start a coup. Back in the 1930s, a marine named Smetley Butler was all that stood between the US and fascism. I'm Ben Bullard. I'm Alex Frinch. And I'm Smetley Butler. Join us for this sorted tale of ambition, treason, and what happens when evil tycoons have too much time on their hands. Listen to Let's Start A coup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. MySpace was the first major social media company. They made the internet feel like a nightclub. And it was the first major social media company to collapse. My name is Joanne McNeil. On my new podcast, Main Accounts, the story of MySpace. I'm revisiting the early days of social media through the people who lived it. Listen to Main Accounts, the story of MySpace. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. I'm Dr. Romani and I am back with season two of my podcast, Navigating Narcissism. This season, we dive deeper into highlighting red flags and spotting a narcissist before they spot you. Each week, you'll hear stories from survivors who have navigated through toxic relationships, gaslighting, love bombing, and their process of healing. Listen to Navigating Narcissism on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the mid-2000s, I was part of an underground party scene of mostly Latinx teens all across LA. Now I'm looking back at that time, and an unself murder that got blamed on the scene. I'm Janice Moka. Host of a new podcast about what happens when your safe space isn't always safe. All episodes of Party Cruise, the Untold Story, that's C-R-E-W-S, are available now, in the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.